Comments on: Jesus wants His church back http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html Steve Addison's blog about movements for the renewal and expansion of the church. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:44:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Jason Pottter http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-87 Jason Pottter Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:03:09 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-87 I think Trav is spot on. Good insight mate. Too many leaders are culture transferers not culture creators. I good church planter needs to be able to create the culture of a church and shape it rather than try and transfer the programs, but really the culture of another church. To be a Transformational leader means transforming something not transfering something. I think handing your church back to God simply means giving him authority over it, just like you need to submit to his authority over you. If Steve had not taken that step when God asked him, he would not be in ministry today. I think Trav is spot on. Good insight mate. Too many leaders are culture transferers not culture creators. I good church planter needs to be able to create the culture of a church and shape it rather than try and transfer the programs, but really the culture of another church. To be a Transformational leader means transforming something not transfering something.

I think handing your church back to God simply means giving him authority over it, just like you need to submit to his authority over you. If Steve had not taken that step when God asked him, he would not be in ministry today.

]]> By: Trav http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-58 Trav Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:56:37 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-58 If we're not going to seek God out about what he dreams for a particularly community then i don't we should be leading a church. Obviously there are numerous things from the bible that will be the same for churches everywhere. I think what churches are doing more and more is looking for a success model that will save them having to seek God out about it. I think a lot of churches are struggling because their ineffectively using someone else's model. I think it's up to the leaders of a church to set an example of handing back the church to Jesus. If we’re not going to seek God out about what he dreams for a particularly community then i don’t we should be leading a church. Obviously there are numerous things from the bible that will be the same for churches everywhere. I think what churches are doing more and more is looking for a success model that will save them having to seek God out about it. I think a lot of churches are struggling because their ineffectively using someone else’s model. I think it’s up to the leaders of a church to set an example of handing back the church to Jesus.

]]> By: Susan http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-57 Susan Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:04:54 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-57 Yes, I'm all for doing church the way Jesus wants it done. My next question is who determines how Jesus wants it done? It has been my experience that "the way Jesus wants it done" very quickly becomes "the way that is most comfortable for the majority" because most of the time we are not that desperate. Yes, I’m all for doing church the way Jesus wants it done. My next question is who determines how Jesus wants it done? It has been my experience that “the way Jesus wants it done” very quickly becomes “the way that is most comfortable for the majority” because most of the time we are not that desperate.

]]> By: Alister Cameron http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-56 Alister Cameron Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:32:37 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-56 I think that IS the point! Jesus wants to be in control. Of his Church and the individuals who make it up. Profound and devastatingly simple at the same time. And as Steve vividly points out, it's often when the individuals are most desperate, that they're the most "yeilded" to him. I think that IS the point! Jesus wants to be in control. Of his Church and the individuals who make it up.

Profound and devastatingly simple at the same time. And as Steve vividly points out, it’s often when the individuals are most desperate, that they’re the most “yeilded” to him.

]]> By: Susan http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-54 Susan Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:50:46 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2005/06/27/jesus-wants-his-church-back.html#comment-54 "Jesus wants his church back" meaning what exactly? That He wants to run it the way He wants to? As opposed to the way we want it run? “Jesus wants his church back” meaning what exactly? That He wants to run it the way He wants to? As opposed to the way we want it run?

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