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The ins and outs of the Emerging church

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I’ve been reading Eddie Gibbs and Ryan Bolger on the Emerging church. From the story they’re telling, here’s what’s in and what’s out this season for the EC.

Out: Church as a place, a meeting, or a time.
In: Church is a way of life, a rhythm, a community, a movement.

Out: GenX and Seeker Services with their “dualistic/spiritualized/interiorized understanding of Jesus, their embrace of the sacred/secular split, and their focus on the church meeting as opposed to community life.”
In: Whatever is the opposite.

Out: Being evangelical.
In: Being post-evangelical or a cultural evangelical. Emerging out of evangelicalism. Being everything—evangelical and charismatic and liberal and orthodox and contemplative and into social justice and into alternative worship. Being the son or daughter of an evangelical minister.

Out: Church buildings, church services, Church Growth, mega churches, attracting crowds to church.
In: Small networks for people on a journey. Church as the friends I spend most of my time with.

Out: Finding God in the church service.
In: Finding God on the dance floor of the club. Finding God in the world.

Out: Planting churches.
In: Embodying the kingdom.

Out: Modernist print culture and the spoken Word
In: Postmodern image based culture and the experienced Word.

Out: The message of the Cross; the gospel of personal salvation.
In: The gospel of the Kingdom as justice and social transformation.

Out: Jesus as preacher.
In: Jesus as politician.

Out: The Church as the centre of God’s redemptive mission.
In: The kingdom and God’s activity in the world as the centre.

Out: Proclamation. Trying to save people. Getting people to heaven.
In: Presence. Making our community a place where you can feel the kingdom of God. Bringing heaven to earth.

Out: Evangelism as persuading people to believe what I believe.
In: Walking the journey of life and faith together, each in their own distinct tradition, with the possibility of encountering God and truth from one another.

Out: Evangelising people of other faiths.
In: Finding God in other faiths or in people of no faith. Being prepared to be evangelised by other faiths.

Out: Apologetics as “atomized abstract presuppositions.”
In: “Narrative-based apologetics of building plausibility structures using narrative and in particular the biblical narrative.”

When you work out this last one, let me know.

13 Responses to “The ins and outs of the Emerging church” »»

  1. Comment by Alan Hirsch | 03/22/06 at 9:06 pm

    Steve, don’t fall for the simplistic bifurcations and false antitheses. Its not that clear. Life is far more mixed phenomenon.

  2. Comment by Dusty Road | 03/23/06 at 1:42 am

    Steve, I am captivated and perplexed buy your post. Are you stating this ‘tongue in cheek’ or reporting what you sense is the direction of the ECM?

    As one whom only wishes to grow up into all Christ created me to be, I am more fascinated by the ECM every day. It does not seem certain that they have a direction or a sense of what God really desire for members of the Body. I could be wrong, but I have not heard or read it clearly communicated as of yet. In dialog with ECM’er, I find a whole new vocabulary which is made up of terms with very fluid meanings. Even among ECM proponents the terms mean completely different things.

    My limited exposure to the EMC has shown one commonality—that those in the ECM are very spiritual people, yet are very spiritually immature. My question to you is—-is the ECM doing a good job of doing what the church is suppose to do (Expounding the Word, equipping believers to do the work of the ministry, edifying the Body, and evangelizing the lost)?

    I will continue to follow your post.

  3. Comment by Steve | 03/23/06 at 11:43 am

    Al/Dusty, thanks for you comments. I’ll give them some thought and post something in the next couple of days.

  4. Comment by Andrew | 03/23/06 at 5:03 pm

    Steve,

    I think your comments are a litte too reactive and trying to distill a very complex missiological, theological and sociological thing into black and white. You can’t. But it isn’t all bad. Despite some of the danger signs there are wonderful stories from these new communities and genuine signs of emergence. This is the very thing that you often say occurs in a new movement.

    I recommend Alan Roxburgh’s new book, The sky is falling: Leader’s Lost in Transition as a good guide for what is happening and how both sides of the polarity can help each other.

    Also, I think the last point is quite clear. It is critiquing the deep effects of modernity in the way that we have communicated the Bible and seeking to get back to the narrative.

    Andrew

  5. ant
    Comment by ant | 03/23/06 at 5:21 pm

    Steve, I think its important that you give your reactions to the ECM from a movement and missions perspective. Others have tended to do so from a theological perspective. But ECM words and ‘conversations’ have influence, impact and fruit. Some of it is good but some of it seems a little ‘rotten’. The rotten fruit needs to be identifed and discarded. I sense a reluctance to do so or an inability to identify from the ECM itself. Maybe because they feel attacked? Emerging church spokespeople (like the rest of us) are quite sensitive to criticism even though they do seem to give out a healthy amount of it – usually toward fundamentalism and evangelicalism of course.

    Questions I’m asking:
    -Am I right to say that there seems to be a disproporitional amount of interest or concern in the ECM? Why should we be so interested in it?
    -Why does a little group (sometimes as little as 20 people in some EC’s) recieve such focus when they have borne relatively little fruit? Shouldn’t we treat them more in keeping with their size and accomplishments?
    -There is a fair amount of experimentation, most of it is destined to fail. Some valuable stuff will come through – but who and how can one pick it currently?
    -Are EC’s really solving or moving forward beyond the problems of evangelicalism or are they creating a new set of problems?
    -I am yet to see substantial similarities between ECM and the truly great movements of the past and present like the Wesleyan revivals or the various church planting movements in China. What are the movements of the past that ECM most resembles?

  6. Comment by Steve | 03/23/06 at 7:18 pm

    Ant

    Some important questions you’ve raised. Wanted you to know I will address them. Hoping to do some reflecting over the next few days and post something early next week. This blog seems to be forcing me to clarify my thinking. It’s much easier when you’re dealing with historical case studies than real live flesh and blood. But its a challenge worth facing.

  7. Comment by Andrew | 03/24/06 at 9:13 am

    Ant, just how do you seperate theology and mission? I’d suggest that you can’t have one without the other.

  8. ant
    Comment by ant | 03/24/06 at 5:06 pm

    Hi Andrew, I wasn’t trying to seperate theology and mission. Your right about how the two are linked. I used the phrase ‘missions (plural) and movements’ not the word mission (singular). I was using them almost as synonyms. Sorry if any imprecision caused confusion.

  9. Comment by Andrew | 03/25/06 at 12:25 pm

    Yeah, I think I know where you were coming from and the way I see it the two must be connected (especially if one is to be Trinitarian). It is when one or the other is left off that we drift from Biblical aims and meanings. And I mean that just as much for dry theology taught in a seminary as for goal setting in the field.

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